Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Carter » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:08:55 am

1. Debb
2. No one else

But since I can't and don't want to cop out despite that being obvious

1. Debb
2. Sarah
3. Ashley
4. Katie
5. Chad
6. Lisa
7. Jo
8. Ken
9. Mia, but only after pigs have flown, hell has frozen over, thawed, then frozen over again, and a Canadian man has been elected President of the United States. That ain't happening.
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Ralph » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:10:05 am

a Canadian is gonna get elected
and it's gonna be me or caryn

and we're gonna fix everythiniiiiiiiing
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Cochran » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:10:45 am

Seventh, when this is all over and you look back on your participation in Stranded, will you have any moments where you look back and cringe?


Cringe? Definitely some of the things I did and said in Portugal. My confessional was a wreck, and if you want to read something terrible then you should go and check out my thread on Bracari "Important Quotes" Where all I did was post shit vytas said to me, I was a mess. However, as far as REGRETTING anything, I don't think I really do? I mean, it got me to where I am now, this whole journey so even though last season I may have cringed on a reread, I wouldn't trade this experience away for anything.

Eighthly, How has this game made an impact on you as an ORG player and you as a person?


I think that I proved to myself here that I can be a good gamer, and that I wasn't the terrible player that graced everyone's screens last time I played. I kept calm, I thought through my decisions and played really well, so I would say that this game did nothing but improve myself as a player. As far as impacting me as a person, well it helped me solidify some relationships, and I do expect to talk to quite a few people from this game when this is over. And it also ruined a few relationships that I had, whether they were good or bad in the first place, so this game had a huge impact on me in that sense.

Ninthly, have you at all impacted this game? Be real with this, and provide specific examples.


I think I made an impact for sure. I was talked about for being in control of my alliance quite a bit in the open, I openly expressed my hatred or love for certain people, so saying that I didn't impact the game in that sense can't be true. As far as how the game moved, whenever I pushed my agenda for a boot it went down (even though I wasn't always the only one pushing it, obviously), but namely there was the Jo boot and the Ashley boot, where both times I had to convince both of Debb and Carter it was the "best move" when they obviously wanted to keep them around so that they could use them to make a move. This helped position me in the best way I could for moving forward at that point. I also took initiative in convincing Ralph to make a move on Debb at F6, and while he didn't want to, I think that is a main reason that the two of us are here in this F3. Also, when I was sure that you had an Idol at the F11 (after being in the forum myself) I ran around telling everyone that I thought that was the case, and got enough votes to tie the vote on to Mia, so I affected it in that way as well.

And finally, number 10, Give me your entire game in a single 24 word sentence. It may not be shorter than 24 words, nor longer. EXACTLY 24 words (because we're on season 24 after all).


I think that I played really well in this game, I started out making strong social bonds, and always tried to better my poision.
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Carter » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:11:06 am

Ralph wrote:a Canadian is gonna get elected
and it's gonna be me or caryn

and we're gonna fix everythiniiiiiiiing


Look, dude, your country has produced some great people, but I don't know how many miracle workers are living up there right now
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Ralph » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:12:29 am

Carter wrote:
Ralph wrote:a Canadian is gonna get elected
and it's gonna be me or caryn

and we're gonna fix everythiniiiiiiiing


Look, dude, your country has produced some great people, but I don't know how many miracle workers are living up there right now


yo martin luther king jr jr jr lives here i think
not sure though
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Carter » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:13:42 am

Ralph wrote:
Carter wrote:
Ralph wrote:a Canadian is gonna get elected
and it's gonna be me or caryn

and we're gonna fix everythiniiiiiiiing


Look, dude, your country has produced some great people, but I don't know how many miracle workers are living up there right now


yo martin luther king jr jr jr lives here i think
not sure though


Does Malcolm X Jr., aka Malcolm Y live there also?
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Cochran » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:14:14 am

Chad wrote:OK, kids. I'm going to make this short because I am EXHAUSTED.

First of all, good luck to all three of you. icon_wub

Second of all, this jury is a bit all over the place. I want you to show us how well you can read the jury by ranking each jury member in order of most likely to vote for you to least likely to vote for you.

That's all from me. I know you guys pretty well. I'm sure we'll talk after the game.

And Cochran I want to give you a huge hug. I'm so proud of you for making it all the way. icon_wub icon_wub icon_wub


Chad icon_wub You should be sitting here next to me, but thanks so much for supporting me in this.

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1. Chad
2. Katie
3. Lisa
4. Jo
5.Sarah
6.Ken
7.Ashley
8.Mia
9. Debb
Least.
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Ralph » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:14:25 am

no but martin luther king jr jr jr does i think
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Jeff Probst » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:17:38 am

Thank you Chad. Now the swimming goddess turned rock queen, Sarah!
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Sarah » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:19:12 am

SIDENOTE: RALPH, WHERE THE FUCK IS MY NICE WORD? "SARAH- /INTIMIDATING"

Thank you Jeff for that marvelous introduction. Hey Final 3! Congrats to all of you for making it here! You made it to the end of an All-Stars game and that’s not a very easy thing to do. Congratulations and good luck tonight. I have no idea where my vote is going tonight which one of you might take as an insult. It isn’t, I just don’t really respect the decision to bring two goats to the end of an All-Stars game. It shows a lot of insecurity in your gameplay, at least with Ken there you look humble by taking someone who might (but wouldn’t) beat you. It’s a dick move, honestly. Wouldn’t you rather be able to say “I won against Mia and Debb” than “I beat Carter and Ralph?” That doesn’t say much, Cochran. Anyone on the jury could beat Carter and Ralph. You look like a pussy. Hell, maybe you are a pussy.

I have a question for you Cochran. Would you say that you held adequate conversation with every member of the jury? Do you feel like you got to know the jury at all? Tell us one personal thing you know about each member of the jury. Something you could only know by actually having an in depth conversation with them?

Also, Cochran, I want to bring up something. Do you have any pride in your game? I want you to prove to me and the rest of the jury that you are proud of the way you played. Why should you have pride in your game? I don't know. You have two goats here and that's NOT okay for an All-Stars game. Show that you deserve to be the winner by winning or losing to STRONG players. Why exactly are there two goats opposite you? Do you not believe you can win? I want to give you the opportunity now to prove me wrong.


(Side note: I do consider you a friend, Cochran. This isn’t anything against you at all. This is a game and I want to know why I should respect the decision you made with your final 3)

Carter, I love you buddy, congrats on being here. I want to give you the opportunity right now to tell the jury just why they should forgive you for not PMing half of the merged tribe. Is there any reason at all they should vote for you? What was your role in your alliance with Nuku Hiva? Did you have a part of the decision making. I want you to detail us what your role in the game was away from that alliance. Did you make any moves contrary to this alliance? Do you think you could have made it here without the aid of Cochran, who nearly left as the 1st Juror?

And Ralph. This is so weird but I love you. You are considered by some to be Cochran’s goat but I feel like that’s not true. Distance yourself a little here. What move did you make besides your inevitable “I SINGLEHANDEDLY VOTED OUT ASHLEY!!!”? How would you have gotten here had Cochran not been here? Do you think you could have made it here? I want you to own your own gameplay. Distance yourself from Cochran HOWEVER you can. Show us that you're not Cochran's meat puppet.

I honestly don't know why ANY of you deserve to win this game. This is a terrible ending to a great game and as a lover of Stranded, I am incredibly disappointed in this outcome.

Jeff, can I address the jury? If so, Ashley, wtf did you block me on Skype when I was genuinely asking if you were okay? I wasn’t starting shit with you so as your friend, my feelings were hurt by that. Wtf??

This sounds a little entitled coming from a 10th placer but I fully believe I would be there and winning tonight had I not been rocked out. :P Kidding but I love all of you and congrats. Good luck.
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Ralph » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:26:41 am

i knew i goofed it was queen sarah. the positive word is queen. and thank you for being so sweet Sarah!

And Ralph. This is so weird but I love you. You are considered by some to be Cochran’s goat but I feel like that’s not true. Distance yourself a little here. What move did you make besides your inevitable “I SINGLEHANDEDLY VOTED OUT ASHLEY!!!”? How would you have gotten here had Cochran not been here? Do you think you could have made it here? I want you to own your own gameplay. Distance yourself from Cochran HOWEVER you can. Show us that you're not Cochran's meat puppet.


okay so I would of made it here if cochstain left when the idol was used on lisa and she was safe. He goes home I'm a free agent okay follow me here cause I'm gonna paint this way of how i won this game. Okay so cochstain is out I stay active and tight with everyone. I really solidify myself with Chad as a duo and Debb/Carter and me as a trio. This realy flips the whole game now that i think about it with cochran leaving that early because then rocks may of never happened! so I'm going to generalize here! I know i get shit for not showing up to challenges but I wouldn't of won them to begin with so i thought ' people might as well know that i'm not even gonna show up so that i look like even less of a threat' my whole game is staying social and not looking like a threat. which I think I pull off very well.! If chad didn't end up leaving at F7 cochran would be seen as his puppet. I think anyone can be seen as a puppet in the right light let me give examples. Sean is ginas puppet. Ken is mias puppet. Cochran is chads puppet. It just depends on who's vocal. tldr; I woulda made it here even if cochran left earlier. thanks for your quesiton mama S!
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Ralph » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:27:18 am

Jeff, can I address the jury? If so, Ashley, wtf did you block me on Skype when I was genuinely asking if you were okay? I wasn’t starting shit with you so as your friend, my feelings were hurt by that. Wtf??


yea i got blocked too.
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Chad » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:31:02 am

You were all in on the Stranded conspiracy against her apparently.
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Carter » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:37:38 am

The Vytas vote and the Chad vote were the two most notable moves I made away from my alliance. I felt like I wouldn't have a shot of getting here if either of those two last longer than they actually did. Vytas especially, since it was obvious to everyone and their mother that Cochran and Ralph were playing to get to Vytas, and that everything from before that reunion would be thrown out the window, and in the process, I'd have been left to die. Chad was a different story. I felt like I'd have been tossed aside around 6 if Chad had been kept around on accounta Cochran/Chad/Ralph being tight along with Mia and Ken hating me and being at the ready to get take me out at the drop of a hat. This if nothing else gave me a little more security within my alliance, and at the time, pretty much wrapped up my spot here barring some weird idol play, immunity run, voodoo shit.

I definitely think I could've made it here without Cochran. The relationships that I had built with Debb, Ralph, Chad, you, and Ashley had me feeling safe for a while at the merge, and I would have been more than willing to work with Lisa in that instance. Hell, I was ready to work with her at the merge, she just became the easy vote and her going would've given myself and my alliance a heightened sense of control at that junction of the game. If he wasn't here, I think things would've been easier, to be honest, since I wouldn't have been trying to appease people who were directly against each other (Cochran and Ashley, namely), and I honestly think that constant sense of wanting to please everyone was my undoing.

I should be forgiven because I really had no ill intent behind the lack of PMing. My schedule picked up a lot at school that I didn't see coming and I ended up having a lot less time to devote to the game than I expected to. It was never personal feelings or a lack of trust that led to this divide between me and a few of you on the jury, and if I did or said anything to make it seem that way, I truly do apologize. I was also just so wrapped up in this one state of mind and plan that I didn't want to risk saying the wrong thing to the wrong person, so I kept things bottled up as opposed to putting them out in the open, since doing the opposite seemed to be a major flaw of mine in Nepal.
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Cochran » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:42:24 am

Sarah wrote:SIDENOTE: RALPH, WHERE THE FUCK IS MY NICE WORD? "SARAH- /INTIMIDATING"

It isn’t, I just don’t really respect the decision to bring two goats to the end of an All-Stars game. It shows a lot of insecurity in your gameplay, at least with Ken there you look humble by taking someone who might (but wouldn’t) beat you. It’s a dick move, honestly. Wouldn’t you rather be able to say “I won against Mia and Debb” than “I beat Carter and Ralph?” That doesn’t say much, Cochran. Anyone on the jury could beat Carter and Ralph. You look like a pussy. Hell, maybe you are a pussy.

I have a question for you Cochran. Would you say that you held adequate conversation with every member of the jury? Do you feel like you got to know the jury at all? Tell us one personal thing you know about each member of the jury. Something you could only know by actually having an in depth conversation with them?

(Side note: I do consider you a friend, Cochran. This isn’t anything against you at all. This is a game and I want to know why I should respect the decision you made with your final 3)


Alright, for bringing Ralph to the end of the game, it isn't about him being a goat. Ralph and I have been talking about owning a game together since the end of Namibia, and this was our opportunity to do so, and I think we accomplished that, he being a goat or not. As far as taking Carter to the end of Mia or Debb? I don't see a world where, in my position at F6 that Debb would have taken me to the end if she had an opportunity to get rid of me, so It didn't make sense for me to put myself at risk. As far as bringing Mia with me to the end? I was playing to get both myself AND Ralph to the end game, so if she and Ken made up the F4, that was a tied vote, and even if I had immunity then I would putting Ralph at risk there. Now, At the F4 I could have taken Ken, but according to what everyone was saying, Ralph, Ken and Carter were all goatey. Basically, I don't consider my decision to get rid of Ralph as one of taking a goat to the end, but more as bringing a friend that I've been close to since my first game with me to the end of a game.

Personal notes on the Jury

Debb- Met a bunch of Survivor contestants at a Charity event type thing one time.

Lisa- Really in to video games.

Katie- Gets a little overwhelmed, and it took her a little while to get IN to this game (especially at the beginning of the whole thing)

Sarah - Would rather take the time out of her day to make something nice for her parents anniversary, rather than let them go out to eat somewhere. (Didn't end up happening though, due to 50 shades of gray)

Mia - Hates me

Ken - This one is hard. I don't have a thing for Ken because we hardly talked, and when we did it was more about game than anything else.

Jo - Er, I know I have had good conversations with Jo and the fact that I'm blanking right now sucks. :(

Ashley - Takes this shit REALLY personally. Trust me, that conversation we had on her boot Episode is more than enough proof.

Chad- Is pregnant :)

Also, Cochran, I want to bring up something. Do you have any pride in your game? I want you to prove to me and the rest of the jury that you are proud of the way you played. Why should you have pride in your game? I don't know. You have two goats here and that's NOT okay for an All-Stars game. Show that you deserve to be the winner by winning or losing to STRONG players. Why exactly are there two goats opposite you? Do you not believe you can win? I want to give you the opportunity now to prove me wrong.


I have a TON of pride in my game. I think that if Mia and I came from the same side of the game, I could have a good shot of beating her in the finals, and I think she played strongly here. I think that what I did was give myself the best possible scenario for winning this game, and like I expained up there, Ralph isn't just a goat I dragged to the end. I consider dragging goats to the end when you fuck over someone who is a really close ally to do it. Like, lets say that I voted out Chad at the F6 just to bring some goats with me, that would be FUCKED and I wouldn't deserve a single vote, but I feel more than ok with working with my ALLIES to get rid of three people, 1 who blindsided me on more than one occasion, and two who were never on my side for majority of the game, to put myself in this position. I don't think that this is a bad end to an all-stars season honestly, I am a little biased but I DO think that I played a game deserving of the title.

I definitely always tried to improve my position with every vote, and I think I successfully did that by limiting the options that Carter and Debb had as far as making moves. If it weren't for Debb, Carter wouldn't have even made a move at the F7, and if it weren't for me positioning myself in the way I did then I would have had a MUCH harder time then trying to pull Mia back to my side to boot Debb if it were someone like Jo or Ashley who could have benefited from working with them. I am confident in the game that I played here, all with a target on my back and I didn't think I had to go out of my way to burn two of my allies for people who were perceived as threats just to make that point,

I know we're friends Sarah lol, this is a game and you gotta harp on me. Hope that explains everything well.
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Cochran » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:42:54 am

Ralph wrote:
Jeff, can I address the jury? If so, Ashley, wtf did you block me on Skype when I was genuinely asking if you were okay? I wasn’t starting shit with you so as your friend, my feelings were hurt by that. Wtf??


yea i got blocked too.


Me also
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Mia » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:45:19 am

I got blocked too!
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Jeff Probst » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:45:53 am

Thank you, Sarah.


Next up: Debb, are you there boo?
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Carter » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:47:41 am

Cochran wrote: If it weren't for Debb, Carter wouldn't have even made a move at the F7.


And how the hell do you even think you know this? I was more than willing to make a move on Chad at 7, hell I wanted to at 8 but the stupid fucking rock draw got in my way. I understand you want to win, but do it on your own merit instead of paint me as Debb's bitch who never had a goddamn thought for himself the entire fucking game. Hell I even told you that I wanted to make a move on Chad, AND YOU FUCKING ACKNOWLEDGED IT, so stop talking about that as if it's the absolute truth
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Cochran » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:49:42 am

Carter wrote:
Cochran wrote: If it weren't for Debb, Carter wouldn't have even made a move at the F7.


And how the hell do you even think you know this? I was more than willing to make a move on Chad at 7, hell I wanted to at 8 but the stupid fucking rock draw got in my way. I understand you want to win, but do it on your own merit instead of paint me as Debb's bitch who never had a goddamn thought for himself the entire fucking game. Hell I even told you that I wanted to make a move on Chad, AND YOU FUCKING ACKNOWLEDGED IT, so stop talking about that as if it's the absolute truth


Dude, Debb said that she had to CONVINCE you that the move needed to be made. That you were all gamed out, and plus you were approached by Ralph and asked to make the SAME move, and said that it wasn't a good move to make to him, so yeah I don't see how with out her you would have sided with Mia on that vote.
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