Episode 2401 Commentary

[Jeff Varner]

debb is 10/10

[Shawn Cohen]

I never say Nepal, but so far Debb is hilarious XD

[Hayden]

awwwwww Katie & Ramona luv you girls!!



holy shit ... someone is leaving already :O

[Kimmi]

Hey, Hayden, I never got a chance to tell you before, but you remember a while back how you talked with someone on Reddit about orgs and you got the link to ORGy? That was me.

[Hayden]

Hey, Hayden, I never got a chance to tell you before, but you remember a while back how you talked with someone on Reddit about orgs and you got the link to ORGy? That was me.

Hey Kimmi lol I figured, because when they were revealing the cast your name sounded so familiar
I felt so bad, sorry I was a bit of an ass back then... at the FTC so sorry :( you played an awesome game!!

[Kimmi]

Hey, Hayden, I never got a chance to tell you before, but you remember a while back how you talked with someone on Reddit about orgs and you got the link to ORGy? That was me.

Hey Kimmi lol I figured, because when they were revealing the cast your name sounded so familiar
I felt so bad, sorry I was a bit of an ass back then... at the FTC so sorry :( you played an awesome game!!

Eh, don't worry about it. It's in the past.

[Courtney Yates]

hmmmm... so what is up

[Kimmi]

Ralph doing voice confessionals is probably the best thing I've ever heard

[Jeff Probst]

Jane is giving me life <333

[Yul Kwon]

Papa Bear is really embracing the role Probst casted him in. For ways to be a comedy character while still being taken seriously, see Debb (especially) and Caryn. I feel like the further PB goes with the character, the worse it will be for him. And honestly, nobody wants to see Papa Bear prove me wrong and last long then me - because that means something has worked. But the more he gets into this 'King Midas' shtick, the worse off he becomes.

I think he laid off the gas pedal a little bit, he'd do better. But every paranoia-laced alliance he makes or a confrontation over someone not doing EXACTLY what he wants/expects, puts him deeper down the rabbit hole.

[Angie]

He was fucked from the moment he sent his first PM.

[Kimmi]

He was fucked from the moment he sent his first PM.

I think he was fucked before that. His reputation for being full of shit precedes him.

His confessionals are entertaining though. I'll give him that. I can see how you hosts liked him last season. He's the most delusional thing ever and he's being played when he thinks he's a player, but he delivers a fun confessional.

[Kimmi]

I saw you liked Ted's hat, Frank.

[Yul Kwon]

Bahahaha. Caryn says in her confessional that she's pretending to be bisexual to Sarah to relate to her. Sarah says in her confessional that she knows Caryn is full of shit.

[Kimmi]

Bahahaha. Caryn says in her confessional that she's pretending to be bisexual to Sarah to relate to her. Sarah says in her confessional that she knows Caryn is full of shit.

Caryn's announcing it at RGF probably didn't help. It definitely came off as random and troll-y

[Coby]

Those Refugee colors are so close to Alumni, I thought I was back in the game for some weird reason.

[Kimmi]

Question for some hosts or alumni who have experienced the Refuge twist before: is it really as big of a game sinker as some of the players like Ashley and Ramona seem to think it is if you get sent there? I get that it's a free pass to the next stage of the game so that could hurt them, but it's not like they lose the ability to make any moves afterwards. Ramona seems pretty sure that once you go there you're a lock for a goat spot though.

[Yul Kwon]

It really depends on who all ends up there. Typically the first group that goes there will have it the best, because they can start a chain of events where they bring in their allies and then have their allies bring in goats to be voted out. That's how it went down last time - the last 2-3 people that showed up got voted out because they were just there to be the minority.

So it depends on how smart they are with their picks. The earlier you go there, though, the better off your chances to form a tribe that will ultimately help you. Another advantage this season is they know exactly what is going to happen, for the most part. We had no idea what was gonna happen in regards to refuge being it's own tribe.

[Kimmi]

Ok, so it's the opposite of a game sinker as long as you play it right. I thought as much. It'll be interesting to see if Ashley or Ramona base their gameplay around that idea.

[Yul Kwon]

What I like about this season is that people know what it is and we can see what someone does with the twist now that they pretty much know (for the most part) how the twist will go. For us last time, we had to guess our way through it.